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Default More 4 1/4 barrel offerings please

If I had a wish granted from smith and Wesson it would be in the form of a 4 1/4 617
since were wishing could it be a 6 shot please ?
This would be primarily for north of the border folk where 4 barrels are verboten
I would like to point out that almost every time you offer a revolver in 4 1/4 I buy one
I have a 629 a 69 and a 686 I passed on the 66 because well it looked kind of cheaply made .. sorry
I believe the 610 may be offered in 4 1/4 but Im not sure I want to enter the 10 mm camp just yet , and I know from my Brazilian that moon clips are kind of a pain
Well anyway build one Ill buy it please
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If I had a wish granted from smith and Wesson it would be in the form of a 4 1/4 617
since were wishing could it be a 6 shot please ?
This would be primarily for north of the border folk where 4 barrels are verboten
I would like to point out that almost every time you offer a revolver in 4 1/4 I buy one
I have a 629 a 69 and a 686 I passed on the 66 because well it looked kind of cheaply made .. sorry
I believe the 610 may be offered in 4 1/4 but Im not sure I want to enter the 10 mm camp just yet , and I know from my Brazilian that moon clips are kind of a pain
Well anyway build one Ill buy it please
I agree with the "cheap look" of the new Smiths, especially those 66s (and the others) with the funky two-piece barrels.
Do you have a new Python yet? Not a fan of the extra 1/4, but since it helps my canuck friends I am learning to live with it.
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If you're going to wish for things, wish that the cowards and imbeciles running things would come to their senses and realize that .25 inches of barrel has zero contribution to the crime rate. Now THAT'S a wish!
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For those wondering how this issue ever became important, it might help to understand that our Canadian neighbors have been dealing with restrictions on barrel lengths, generally a mandate for barrels of 4.2" (10 centimeters) minimum to qualify in most cases.

This, of course, conflicted with most US manufacturers' long-standing practices of (nominal) 4" barrel lengths on many popular revolvers. Thus, the more standard US-production revolvers have been denied for export to Canadian dealers and customers.

So, S&W and other makers have adapted by offering slightly longer barrel lengths to remain active in the Canadian market. Over time, some of those revolvers went out to US distributors and into US customers' hands. Some frustration was created on the US side of the border because the newer revolvers may not fit correctly in holsters made for the more common 4" barrels we have seen here for many decades.

Overall, probably a very small wrinkle in human events. I do recall a time some years back when I started receiving complaints and returns of holsters ordered for a 4" S&W because the dam-thing-just-won't-fit. I had to learn to adapt because a lot of S&W revolvers produced to the Canadian standard found their way to the US market.
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If you're going to wish for things, wish that the cowards and imbeciles running things would come to their senses and realize that .25 inches of barrel has zero contribution to the crime rate. Now THAT'S a wish!
Yes sir that is a good wish
But its a fight Im not equipped to fight , I do however take out many new shooters every year and introduce them to a safe and fun sport of handgun shooting
My angle is the more public that has a positive outlook on legal firearm ownership the more thoughtful votes we might have when hysterical voting is burning our hobby at the stake in the name of public safety
You have no idea how close we are to losing everything !
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I agree with the "cheap look" of the new Smiths, especially those 66s (and the others) with the funky two-piece barrels.
Do you have a new Python yet? Not a fan of the extra 1/4, but since it helps my canuck friends I am learning to live with it.
I dont own one.
pretty ,as in pretty expensive lol , Ive thought about it but Ive owned a number of colts and they dont really do it for me
I do have a 1913 vintage officers model in 38 special that shoots clover leafs with any ol junk you run through it haha
I have a couple new service that I just cant part with
I have a few other ponies but mostly I run S&W
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For those wondering how this issue ever became important, it might help to understand that our Canadian neighbors have been dealing with restrictions on barrel lengths, generally a mandate for barrels of 4.2" (10 centimeters) minimum to qualify in most cases.

This, of course, conflicted with most US manufacturers' long-standing practices of (nominal) 4" barrel lengths on many popular revolvers. Thus, the more standard US-production revolvers have been denied for export to Canadian dealers and customers.

So, S&W and other makers have adapted by offering slightly longer barrel lengths to remain active in the Canadian market. Over time, some of those revolvers went out to US distributors and into US customers' hands. Some frustration was created on the US side of the border because the newer revolvers may not fit correctly in holsters made for the more common 4" barrels we have seen here for many decades.

Overall, probably a very small wrinkle in human events. I do recall a time some years back when I started receiving complaints and returns of holsters ordered for a 4" S&W because the dam-thing-just-won't-fit. I had to learn to adapt because a lot of S&W revolvers produced to the Canadian standard found their way to the US market.
With this bill also came the arbitrary prohibition of 25 and 32 caliber pistols
This was supposed to eliminate the Saturday night specials and belly guns , making Canada so much safer
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You have no idea how close we are to losing everything !
I live in Massachusetts, of course I have an idea! Good luck up there. Notwithstanding the goofy politics, It's great place!
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If I had a wish granted from smith and Wesson it would be in the form of a 4 1/4 617
since were wishing could it be a 6 shot please ?
Is 6 shots another legal thing or do prefer old school 6 shot revolvers?

I use my 617 for informal target shooting and plinking and haven't found a disadvantage to having 10 shots instead of 6. Adding a 1/4 inch to the barrel would be a lot less effort for them than tooling up for six shot cylinders and lock work.
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