canoe-

Maybe you missed my point with the link. Linebaugh tests a lot of heavy rifles along with the handguns, and they are shown in those tests. He himself, never claimed them to be scientific. Just an interesting comparison between many different rounds, when fired at the exact same medium.

The fact that men I respect particpated in the test goes a long way with me. John Taffin is first to mind.

The tests themselves show what one can expect, at least to some degree, from the heavy rifle. The fact that a similar caliber handgun firing a similar weight bullet, can penetrate as well or better than many heavy rifles, paralells what the .458 can, or might do, when compared to other large bore rifles, when caliber, bullet weight and design etc., are all taken into consideration.

I have no desire to redirect the conversation of this thread, so I will comment no further in it.

I apologize if you feel we may have caused any thread drift.