Jim----around the time BigDog started making/selling CS grips on this site, there was a post from a member who had made a pair for himself. I remember corresponding with him about it before having BigDog make me a set. I don't seem to have good luck with my searches on this forum but if you have time to dink around looking maybe you will. I can't remember the members name but if I come across it or the info he posted I'll send it along to you. Good luck.