STAY AWAY FROM THE MAXFIRE SPEEDLOADER!!! Some users have bent the crane on their J frames using then. Go to snubnosetraining.com and click onto Michael's blog. I've tried them all including the S.L. Variant (Bobby Macs- Just snub holsters carries them). They are truly amazing and possibly worth the $30 they retail for. I'm also very happy with Dade speadloaders. There's a guy on Ebay that makes them now. I like both better than the HKS. My primary J frames have been altered for moon clips. The problem with moon clips for a reload is how to carry them. The clips for .38 special are thin and bend easy.