Thanks, now I understand. On the same note, I was amazed at the power of my neighbor's .22 mag rifle. Almost went through the regular .22 metal targets we were using. They were even puting serious hurt on my .44 targets. I'm thinken I might have to get one of this. We shot a wet pack of playing cards with it and my 9mm and it was incredible how much the bullet flared out by the time it exited. The 9mm round just punched right through. I imagine S&W would sell a boat load of these in a mag. version. Can you make something that would fire both mag and long rifle rounds? That would be a killer combo. Hum perhaps the wrong choice of words. Outstanding may be a better way to say it.