Oh gawd. I was hoping you wouldn't ask where I got it. This was about 10 to 15 years ago. Could have been Champions Choice. To much brass has been reloaded since I got it. Yes you can take the slide off while the grip is on. But, it is much easier to remove the grip and leave the Ultra-Dot still attached to the top of it as one piece. Then dismantle the slide. I wish I had a camera to take a picture of it to show you. Maybe someone can help us both out. I'm sorry that I don't remember where I got it. My question to you is where did you get that neat slide on pistol grip, I shoot bullseye comp. and that rubber(?) grip looks like it might help me.

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Muddy Dog