yea but i got a sigma. I liked the look more then the M&P's. Do u know if the 4.5" barrels from the old Sigma line will even fit the new ones. Cuz if so ill get my hands on one and port it my self or get a friend to do it. I think it would look pretty cool even thou some ppl don't think so... as well as decreasing muzzle rise with out cutting into my slide.