The latest mod 63 I got was from a pawn shop. I must of had the look in my eye that I wasn't leaving without it. After the deal was done I asked him how the pawn business worked. So he told me he had $125 in the gun and held it for 3 months thinking that the guy would come back for it. He did the math and made $100 dollars off me buying it. I certainly don't begrudge someone that has a business to make a profit. Story 2 went to local gun shop found a nice mod 12 w/ box and cleaning kit. Salesman says $450 because he paid $400 for it. Number 1 mistake is telling a lie to me so I walked out. I have bought many guns from them, all smiths, at far prices the mistake they make is thinking I would pay more because I love the product. So now it's time to low ball and play the game. They should have made thier money off selling in volume to me. This would have been my sixth gun from them. Doeboy