Lost Lake..........I read your article. It seems that even the best 40 S&W loads are a bit short of 500 ft/lbs........I'm assuming these are loaded to Saami specs of 35K. A 185gr. Gold Dot for 45ACP+P can easily be driven over 1100fps for over 500 ft/lbs. of energy at about 10K less case pressure. I'm not going to fight you too hard on this one, but let's compare apples to apples. I'm not aware of any 165gr. jacketed bullets for the 45ACP, but it doesn't take much imagination to see that when comparing equal bullet weights......the 45ACP will easily outperform it. I seem to remember that for 40S&W, the standard ballistics for a 180gr. bullet was 975fps. That load just barely makes major. I have no issues with folks that want to pack the .40. It's certainly better than a 9mm Para, but it ain't no modern day 45ACP. That's why I ranked it where I did. Feel free to build a case for it being better than the 357Sig.