The other day there was a 617 no dash with all the goodies including the original combat grips for $630 shipped on GB and I almost pulled the trigger but didn't because I already have one. Another S&W forum member bought it while my significant other and I were at the movies and I congratulated him but I had came within a whisker of buying it before we left for the show.

Anyway, the 617 is built like a tank and it would take a lifetime of heavy shooting to wear one out so I would buy the used one for $580.