Group, For what it's worth, the early .32 Safety Hammerless production records are contained in the Floor Foreman's day books. The guns were made on a "piece rate payment" program, wherein a Floor Foremen kept a record in his Day Book, often by serial number, of the progress of the manufacturing, assembly and completion of each gun that his workers produced each day and they were paid according to how many pieces they made. These books for the Safety hammerless models, from the first guns in the late 1880s to the early 1900s were in a deceased S&WCA members collection and were set to come up for auction a few years ago. The member's heirs and the auction house did not realize the importance of these books to collectors, so with Charlie Pates andRoy Jinks help, I arranged for them to be donated to the CVHM collection of S&W archives, where they are today. Perhaps in the future, the S&W Historical Foundation can arrange to have the books digitized and the information made available to all our members. Perhaps then a factory letter can not only include when a Safety Hammrless model was shipped, but also when it was made and put in the vaults for future orders. Currently the BATF uses the ship date to determine whether a Safety Hammerless model is an antique or C&R, however if a factory record can indicate when a gun's frame was made, that date can become the date by which the BATF detrmines the gun's classification, such as is currently done with the .44DA models. Ed.