I haven't used the new DeSantis grip, but bookmarked their site, as it looks promising. I have used a similar rig, the Barami "Hip Grip" combined with a Tyler T-grip adapter. This was a satisfactory carry method for J-frames, and the DeSantis rig appears to address all the shortcomings and failings of the Barami/Tyler combo, i.e., it has the right ergonomics, a decently textured, sweat impervious material, etc. It appears to have a sufficient gap between the "lip" and the sideplate to permit use with a fair thickness of belt and waistband, etc. I just may try one...