Lobo, The Victory Model data base is kept by LWCmdr45 ( Steve) and ordnance guy (Charlie) . Any and all info. therein is as reported by Forum members, or as observed from any source by Steve & Charlie and others, Best data is copies, or info, from factory letters and photos of markings on Victory Models. The more info. that can be found and recorded in the Data Base, the better off we are as to our knowledge of these interesting S&Ws, known as Pre-Victories, Victories and Post War Victories. Info. can be submitted to Charlie at [email protected] Ed.