I agree.

When I first cast the Lee tumble lube 240 SWC I loaded them over a start charge of Trail Boss. Recoiled like my .380 Bersa but was still moving that 240 grains at 850fps. That's .45 ACP performance.

I can also run the same bullet at 1025 over 8.3gr Unique, 1065 over 8.8 and 1154 over 9.5. All are quite mild in the recoil department.

I can also make it essentially a hand rifle. Look at this post I made over in reloading about chrono results for some old Remington 210s: Yowza! I forgot how hot the old Rem 210s were.