i carry a 442 in a galco horsehide front pocket, and a 638 in a galco combat master on my hip. one ammo, two guns. i carry a 2x2x2 on the belt, and a speed loader from 5 star firearms in a cargo pocket. i feel like that should do the job in all cities, except kandahar or bahgdad... as stated the airweights are a handfull with full 38+p's, practice is a must.