I use the standard load of a 158swc hardcast with 5.1 grs. of Unique in my 38 spec. and ccw 442-1 snubby. It will kill a 120lb doe with one double lung shot with complete pentration on the off side. One time I held a tad high and it broke the spine in two and still pentrated the off side. Its a good bullet design and has been working for a good 7-8 decades . Whats not to like? Its proven! Shot placement is everything and pentration is queen. You can keep the 125-135 hp loads in the snubby,but I will stick with the 158swc.