Well, to me, military discipline and what you wear are two totally different subjects. I was in the very last of the brown shoe Army. Yes, we had discipline. My wife's brother in-law was a Captain around the seventies, and he told me when he got out, "if it was my Dad's Army, or even your Army, I would have stayed in. There is no discipline anymore. Sergeants can't get their men to do anything unless there is an Officer standing behind them. The quality of most enlistees is gone. This was before the volunteer army, so can't speak for what's going on now. But the trend was set, and I know they use waivers to keep their enlistment figures up. That's not good.