Originally Posted by McJoe

Hi guys, I signed up just to make this point... First, I shoot daily, mostly 22, and at least 15-30 rounds of 357 a week. I prefer Rem GS 125's. They have a BRASS jacket. Brass is a mixture of copper and zinc. To put this in perspective, what happens when you add zinc to lead? It becomes harder (hence the term "hard cast"). So, a RGS hollow point will not physically open the same as a copper jacket. Because the copper expands faster, more velocity is required to acheieve necessary penetration as the bullet mushrooms soon after striking an organic mass, slowing itself down.

Now compare the original .357 158gr. LSWC round @1500fps vs say remington 158 jsp @1200 or so... unjacketed lead would have what I consider to be "uncontrolled expansion" at that velocity. Opening almost instantly upon impact, the velocity was needed to achieve adequate penetration with the now severely deformed projectile. Compare that to the copper jacketed round, less boom, same penetration, thanks to the "controlled expansion" provided by the new fangled copper jacket. Copper jackets provide other benefits, such as cleaner barrels and better accuracy after more shots fired. The tradeoff is obvious in 'stopping power' as defined by 'pound feet'... more on this in a moment...

With the RGS brass, opening slower, if you threw that sucker at 1500 fps it would blow right on through a man-sized target. I am experimenting with hand loads with GS 125's cooking at 2200 fps from my M77. Penetration is NOT an issue. I plan to hunt white tail with these projectiles this fall. Who knows could be a black bear capable bullet too. More pen tests before I go that far.

The moral of the story? It has been proven time and time again, shot placement and adequate penetration are much more important than sheer force. GS rounds open consistently and penetrate to the depth necessary, and simply put, the extra velocity, flash, and recoil are not necessary to achieve a fight stopping hit. In my opinion, for it's intended purpose, the golden saber is the most well designed projectile for its application and loading, Not to mention it's proving to be a helluva rifle bullet when shes moving fast. Wish they made them in 158's and 180's. Oh... and did I mention that they are water proof casings? Hows that for a go to sd round?

Oh did I also mention that they perform almost the same out of a 4" barrel as they do out of a snubbie? Similar velocity, penetration, and expansion...

Don't knock it till you try it friends. If you're going to bitch about what you read on the box, know first why it says what it says. Thanks for reading.