I just sold off the last of my newer S&W guns. From the finish coming off to the cracked fames. Lock or no lock the quality of the newer guns sucks. There I said it. Even some of there P.C. guns leave the factory with problems. I'm glad some of you guys love you newer guns. This is not just my opinion it come from my experience with them. Shame on me for keep going back buying them hoping to get a good one. I love Smith & Wesson's and I'll keep buying the older ones that were made when people took a little pried in what they made. Yea there were a few bad eggs back then but Nothing like now. From the fit and finish to the parts used it's not even close. God knows I tried I just can't deal with it anymore. But that's just me.