part of the problem with online dealers is they might have ammo in stock but its all hollow-point rounds. and it is all marked way up. a few months back we could get a 50 rd box of 9mm for 10.99 now its ending up past 18-19 bucks a box, if you can find it. Gun show in ontario last weekend, the lines for ammo where 2 hours long, and they were only taking order for it. 3 week wait!