Hi from Vegas, Nevada Ed! I wonder if a plain soft-lead SWC might be the ticket in a J-frame. On YouTube, a poster 'TNoutdoors9' does many bullet tests with cloth draped over ballistic gel, and the cloth often plugs up HPs. Winch and Rem used to offer service SWCs in white-box loads when the .38 was the cop standard. Rem lead was softer than Winch. BuffaloBore offers standard pressure .38s, including a wadcutter loading at 'service' velocity, not target, originally developed in the 1930s. Check their website. Hope this helps. VL