I got both these guns about a year ago (from a dealer at a gunshow) for $700. I shot the 36 about 100 rds various JHP, +P etc. Nice, handy controllable. Sold it for $400 shortly thereafter as I don't have a "spot" for it. Nothing wrong with it, but in a 5 shot .38 I like a 640,642,60. Keep looking, about every 6-8 gunshows something nice shows up and at the right price. Joe