Hey don't forget some of us really do also have other brand guns then Taurus too!! I mean where is this all going? I have a Taurus PT 1911 full size.. I got it for the range not for protection!! I have Colt compact 1911's many S&W's Gen 3's and M&P's all in .45 cal my choice not to mention a S&W model 36 snuby Beretta's and oh yes a few Rugers too!! ALL are decent guns! At least the models I have are anyway! I don't even like 90% of Taurus's but one can do a lot worse then a PT 1911 for sure as you can see from some of the posts here.. I'm done P--sing now. George