The M&P .40 is way to heavy for any elastic shorts/sweats I have even with the tightest elastic waist band or being tied. I could do it just to run down the road but would hope I didn't need to do much walking. 14 round loaded clip doesn't help either and I only carry the one in the gun.

The DeSantis does have a nice deep/tall clip for tucking.

The best technique for tucking I've found is:
- Tuck in the shirt like normal.
- Put the holster/gun on the waistband.
- Get the jeans/belt into location
- Pull the shirt out just enough to lift over the gun grip and fold the bottom slightly
- Pull the shirt down over the gun grip
- Buckle the belt and zip

The AlienGear isn't much different just a little more difficult with 2 clips.



Still sometimes have to do this twice to get it to look right.