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06-28-2014, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug M.
The real cost issue for a 1911 is that it was designed when machine work was expensive and hand work by skilled craftsmen was relatively cheap. A 1911 built to the standard set by JMB takes a lot of hand fitting. That's part of being duty worthy. Sights appropriate to the shooter; ambi safety that works every time; feeds duty ammo reliably without cleaning for 500 - 1000 rounds.
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We could probably go round and round about this, and even have a lot of fun doing it, but I'll just comment on this part of your post, and let it go.
The original 1911 wasn't designed for the tolerances to be all that close. It was designed to function under various bad conditions (mud, dirt, rain, rust, etc.), so it was deliberately built somewhat loose. That's why the older orignal Colts will rattle when you shake them. Some of today's modern 1911s with their human-hair-thick tolerances would fail miserably next to an older Colt .45 pistol. I've quoted the original tests for John Browning's original .45 at least twice on this forum, so I won't go there again. They are easily found if you'll do some research. But do keep in mind that the original 1911 underwent a 6,000 round torture test (among other things) in order to be accepted by the U. S. military.
Here's a quote directly from Hilton Yam's website:
"Shoot or deploy the gun in a heavy rain and you can expect to detail strip it if you don’t want it to turn into a fuzzy orange mess inside."
I'm sorry, but this is just pure horse pucky.
And I think (I could be wrong) it was Hilton Yam who advised to never chamber a round in a .45 by depressing the slide release and let the slide slam forward. Baloney! The pistol was designed to do that...a wounded soldier can load a magazine and chamber a round using only one hand. It's made to take that kind of punishment.
You take a Talo or a (God forbid) Wiley Clapp version of a .45, and basically all you have is a slightly tweaked pistol with a fancy name and an even fancier price tag on it. And who is Wiley Clapp, anyway? All he does is write about guns and hobnob with gun company CEOs and other gun writers...has he ever designed one from the ground up? I seriously doubt it. I understand he's an ex-Marine, and I respect that, but what's he done to advance revolver and pistol design? And I'm willing to listen if someone will thoroughly explain what makes an Ed Brown or a Nighthawk .45 worth $4000. Not saying I'll agree, mind you, but I'll certainly listen.
Fancy stocks, front end serrations on the slide, and a fancy name rollmarked on the slide ain't gonna put the bullet where you want it to go. Neither is a lowered and flared ejection port. I'd take a $450 RIA .45 over a Nighthawk any day.
Anyway, that's enough of that from me. We can simply agree to disagree...don't you agree?
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