I started with a 450 progressive, the upgraded when available and ran it for about 20 years. Then went to the 650 with the bells & whistles.

You gotta learn how to operate the 650, and it runs fine. It requires understanding now & then needing a little loving too. You can fight it & be unhappy, or learn what it needs & it will reward you with all the ammo you can use.

Case feeder is essential with the 650 or you're wasting your time & $.

I'd rather be shooting than reloading, and the 650 treats me right.

Besides the design of the machine, the actual CUSTOMER SUPPORT is a great model for how .gov should work.

I just learned a NO COST trick from the Dillon rep last week, and haven't had an upside down 9mm case in the 1000+ rounds I've run since then.

For me, the annoying parts of the 650 protocol, means I haven't carefully evaluated what functional anomaly needs attention.

Running a 650 is like operating a piece of equipment or playing an instrument; once you learn the tricks it ain't hard to do.

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