Much as with 9mm, long considered not a real self defense round by some, improvements in technology have made the .380 a viable choice for self defense carry.

I saw a lot of people who were shot in my career. Over 300 or so. No matter what caliber they were shot with, it pretty much stopped them from doing whatever it was they were doing before they got shot.

Only one guy, who was probably stoned, ever told me that it didn't really hurt. Maybe not, but he still was lying on the sidewalk when I got there.

The thing that I think some people don't really consider is that if someone is so recoil shy to a particular caliber or gun, it's less likely that they'll shoot when they need to. If my wife were too shoot someone with 10 rounds from our Walther P22, it would be better than her not shooting someone with our 642.

Just my opinion, for what it's worth.

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