I will give another vote for rimz clips.I have been using 45acp revolvers for 25 yrs.And the rimz clips have been the best thing since sliced bread for range work.But if you want A 45acp revolver you don't need moon clips for try a ruger new model vaquero.I have one with 3 3/4 in barrel with birdshead grip that is a lot of fun at the range.