Got back from the Stan and went elk hunting near Canon City, Colorado, 3rd season. I didn't see a single animal. Had lots of mule deer does around me, but no elk. The .35 Whelen shot great. I worked up some loads with the Sierra Gameking 225gr. bullet, which is a short bullet for caliber, but shoots very well in front of about 60.5 grains of RL 15 using a Remington 91/2 primer. The only problem is that I can't find the Sierras anywhere right now. I had them on order from Midway, and they cancelled it due to Remington telling them they wouldn't have the bullet available in the forseeable future. Well, maybe I'll get an elk next year.