I have only shot clays (50 round) and skeet a few times, but I am already hooked. I will not be spending $22,000 on six 410 shotguns - that much I do know! However, they will not let me take lessons with a Remington 870 Marine Magnum as much as I like it. I did use the Marine Magnum to shoot sporting clays once, it was not my highest score although I did disintegrate a bird with 00 buckshot (I had permission) and popped open the eyes of the bystanders. As always thanks for the appreciated advice! Rick