M&P Shield vs Diamondback DB9

Probably the one issue I've seen with people having trouble with new subcompact semi autos is their failure to first clean and lube them before running down to the range to shoot them. The root of that problem, I believe, was because with the polymer pistols developing a reputation for being so reliable from the get-go, the rumors spread that pistols such as Glocks did not require ANY lubrication (or cleaning) to operate 100 percent reliably. Writer John Connor penned an article in "American Handgunner" when the S&W Shield was introduced. He made a point to stress cleaning and lubrication before heading to the range, and subsequently had a positive range session during his evaluation, including break-in. Now whether or not proper lube on a Diamondback and some of the other affordable-priced pistols will reduce or eliminate malfunctions remains to be seen, but any semi auto needs a break-in, even if it is for the owner's piece of mind. In my experience, if I clean and lube my Glocks and M&Ps before heading to the range and they work flawlessly through the first 300 rounds, which include hollow points, then I can rely on that pistol. I've only had one such polymer pistol that has given me fits beyond what I consider a decent break-in period, and that was a 9c that ended up going back for some work.

I have no experience with the Diamondback, but the last time my interest was perked on a small cheaper priced pistol not manufactured by Glock or S&W, I encountered a lot of problems. Fortunately, the gun was not mine, but I had sufficient time to put a few rounds thru it to see how I liked it. Even with lube, the gun never did seem to want to work reliably. Even after a trip back to the factory, it still was not reliable, and finally blew up - the only gun I've ever seen do that. Granted, it had received a steady diet of +p and +p+ ammo thru it's short, 500 round life, but I never thought that would cause any more damage that accelerated wear and tear. Cracking the barrel all the way from the chamber to the muzzle was another thing. What I would recommend is that you take into consideration a lot more factors than just carrying the gun for CCW - such as how it will hold up when you train with it. That said, I would go with the Shield over the DB9.

Incidentally, a friend recently brought a new Glock 42 to the range. He had three factory magazines with it. I have fired another 42 and noted it to be reliable and sort of fun to shoot - almost making me start to appreciate the .380. This particular 42, however, did not want to fire thru a magazine without a failure to feed. I checked the gun and noted that it did have some lube on it, but I added a bit more. It still did not seem like it wanted to function. Granted it was being fired for the first time, and the shooter was using a box of cheap .380 FMJ ammo, so that may have been the problem. It also seemed to run a little more reliably when the magazines were not loaded to capacity. Nevertheless, I emphasize my point that any semi auto needs a break-in before being relied on for self defense.
 
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The manufacturer says not to use it solely for target practice as it was meant to be a CCW.
I don't need to hold, fire or own a gun to know I don't want it if the manufacturer says this.

There are a ton of people out there that use the wrong criteria to pick their concealed handgun. At the top of their list is small and light rather than accurate and ability to hit the target. This is one of those guns.

A concealed carry gun should be shot a lot. The user should be comfortable with it. They should know how it works and shoots. They should be intimate with its operation and manipulation. They should be able to hit the target easily with it.

Most of all, the gun needs to be reliable. Functional reliability is the absolute top requirement for a carry gun. If it doesn't work, it's not a gun, is it? Being able to hit the target is a close second. If you can't hit the target, it's unlikely you'll stop them.

So, the gun should be shot a lot to verify reliability. It should be shot a lot to practice accuracy and increase speed. If the manufacturer says to not shoot it a lot, it's a pile of excrement and not something I'd trust my life to.
 
Most of all, the gun needs to be reliable. Functional reliability is the absolute top requirement for a carry gun. If it doesn't work, it's not a gun, is it? Being able to hit the target is a close second. If you can't hit the target, it's unlikely you'll stop them.

So, the gun should be shot a lot to verify reliability. It should be shot a lot to practice accuracy and increase speed. If the manufacturer says to not shoot it a lot, it's a pile of excrement and not something I'd trust my life to.

I am in complete agreement! My BG380 has been shot well over 500 rds. and has never shown any issues with reliability or lack of function. It is quite accurate at the range and is very easy to breakdown, clean and lube.
I just wish it was not quite so snappy to shoot! I am getting used to it though and hopefully after another 500 rds., The snap wont bother me as much.

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Heh... you know, back in the old, old, bad old days, in places like New York and Philly, before policing had the high level of integrity that it does now, guns like the DB9, RGs, etc., were considered "throw-downs", kept for those "Oops" occasions when they shot someone that turned out not to be armed after all. 27veer's comment that he keeps his DB in an ankle holster reminded me of that little bit of cop trivia (because the ankle rig is perfect for storing and planting the thrower...)
 
The manufacturer says not to use it solely for target practice as it was meant to be a CCW.

In the American Civil War, a contract for Union Army boots was given to an individual because he was a close friend to War Secretary Stanton. The boots fell apart after a single mile of marching. When asked why, his reply was "They were meant for the Cavalry."

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I refer to the DB9 as a "get off me" gun. Changing a tire by the side of the road or whatever, it is something I can literally put in the watch pocket of my jeans easily. These guns MUST run 115 grain ammo.
 
It WAS Lazarus that said something about it being "deja vu all over again", wasn't it?

Back from the grave: twice!

And right after Easter as well!

Cheers!

P.S. I just couldn't resist...
 
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