Magnum with a snub nose barrel we expect it. I had the Herret grips made to fit my hand for my ruger 357 snub nose. The grips don't turn in my had anymore.

I been a 5 1/2", 6", 6 1/2", 7 1/2" barrel guy all my life. I expected the worst recoil from my new s&w m58 with federal 410gr JHP loads. I found shooting my RedHawks 44 with my magnum loads a tad much on the recoil. So I thought the m58 with the 4" would be worse. Not I was wrong the big N frame won me over the balance to weight vs power ratio is spot on. Nothing under 4" for me.