I had no idea this stuff was so hard to find! I bought some ammo from a local guy whose father in law had passed and left some behind. Around 450 rounds of LSWC 38's, a little over a box of LSWC 357 and two unopened boxes of these CCI shot shells. I went out on the 'net to see what they were worth and they run anywhere from $15-$20 per box of 10. BUT, everywhere I find them listed for sale they are out of stock. What's up with that?