Originally Posted by 30-30remchester

I have to disagree with a few of your experences. I have 2 model 12 trap guns with over 1/2 million rounds through them and never had any problems with them "blowing the action open". I have never seen a model 12 that moved when you pushed the follower. The Remington model 870 didnt replace the model 12 because of the twin action bars. It took 12 years of production of the model 870 before the model 12 went away. The only advantages the Remington had over the model 12 were the were cheaper (also cheaper built), the were lighter because they used less steel and more cast mystery metal parts along with some stamped tin parts thrown in to boot, and it ability to quickly and cheaply change barrel (a good thing).