After reading all these posts I sure feel good about the old run down gun club I go to. Never had a problem like the one's mentioned, of course I go on a week day so it is always less crowded and the folks that are there are all good natured and fun to be around. We tend to tell jokes and lie to each other a lot more that shoot anyway. I have found I can be a much better liar about my shooting that I can actual shooting! LOL. I have to admit though, I have kyped old one legged Jakes brass on more than one occasion. I knew he couldn't catch me.