Bought my marlin 357 magnum for $160 bucks and stuck a Lyman All American 6x for load developement. Was able to consistently keep all shots on a 4" target. Best these eyes can do. The 357 shows spekling on the receiver and some flitz cleaned it up but still there. The 44 magnum Marlin I got for $240 and again it was used. Call that one thumper as it kicks at both ends. Have had a lot of fun with both and both are the pre lock versions. Frank