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Old 04-26-2016, 09:14 AM
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Sig on the pistol side of the business is moving in two different directions currently IMHO. The days of the standard P series P220/P226/P229/P239 etc driving the business at Sig are over. IMHO The classic P series used to be the meat and potatoes of the Sig lineup. Their contracts in the US Military and LEO plus contracts from all over the world have kept them in business, at times barely.

Then came Cohen who both saved and ruined the company depending who you asked. They started to put out 10 different models of each P series guns which were basically the same gun with different grips, finishes and marketing ala Kimber. Like him or not he took over a Sig that was not doing well financially and has turned it around. Without his changes Sig was in danger of being gobbled up by outside money similar to what happened to S&W.

They came out with a 1911, the P238, P938 and the P250 etc... There were a lot of QC problems bad MIM, bad extractors, poor fit and finish and poor QC. Again sounds like Kimber.

They expanded the offering but sort of stumbled forward without a super hit. The 1911 took a few years to get right. The P238 is popular but it took 5+ revisions to get it to run properly. The P250 was a failure and IMHO would not be around if not for its commonality with the new P320. The Mosquito died a quick death.

There were niche hits like the SP2022 which was made possible because the French Police needed a new pistol and chose a version of the all but dead SP2009. At the same time they have moved from a German craftsmanship type company to a mass production US type company. They move a lot of metal just ask anyone who works on the production side at Sig or anyone who knows people who work there. The production quotas are high! Sig has now moved all of their production out of Germany to NH. You can not even get Mastershop or P210s from Germany anymore.

Which brings me to the 2 different directions of todays Sig. They have a hit in the making with the P320. The modularity of the P250 in a striker fired pistol which a good to great out of the box trigger. They still have the P series which have more parts commonality these days then ever before but are no longer the focus of their marketing or contract offerings. The are sort of the status quo.

Then this year they added the Legion models which are really an attempt to offer a US made custom shop/master shop type pistols. They need something to sell to those looking for higher end pistols since the Mastershop has been shut down for the US consumer. This area will grow. There will be a US made P210 and one can assume there will be a Legion Series gun for each classic P series pistols. This is the high end of the 2 directions. Those who are willing to spend $1000 on a German like low volume production-custom like pistol.

The lower end will be the P320. These will be the center piece of any large contract Sig goes over. Sig was late into the striker fired polymer world but when they got in they did a good job. They have tweaked the pistol a bit but nothing compared to the P238 or P250. They have built in huge economy of scale into this design which allow them to compete with Glock & M&P on the contract side as well as the commerical market. This I am told is a huge focus of the the current Sig. It has to be. They need a volume pistol for a volume pistol world.

IMHO the high end, Legions and the lower end, P320 will be the focus. Time will tell if this will work. I personally think Sig is taking the right approach and for the first time on over 10 years I bought a NIB Sig last year.

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