I think the other knife is a medium Boker Tree Brand Stockman. It has "BOKER USA" on one side and "85" (tree) "88" on the other side of clip blade. It has Tree Brand and Made in Germany etched on the clip blade too. Why does it have both countries on it? It's shield has the trademark registered symbol on it. It also has brass liners like I am familiar with. I think I got it as a groomsman's gift in the late 80's. It had my initials crudely engraved in one of the bolsters.