I'm not sure if any ammo company's factory load em or not. Hand loaded defensive ammo may be a potential legal problem for some folks. If you do, don't run em over 850fps that seems to be the the "sweet spot" for the 148 LHBWC. Below 850fps they do not open to their full potential, over 850fps the "skirt" starts to blow off the bullet.
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