On those hogues also, I find the gently grooved finger grips quite desireable too. Fill my hand fine and I can palm a basketball, barely. Just saying, all in all I think they're a great grip function wise. As good or better than any of the fancy wood ones I've bought. They just aren't lookers. But some people could probably care less about looks. If I was involved in any kind of competitive shooting (which I'm not) I would put these rubbers back on it promptly.