since I made my original posts and acquired a 16-4, 32 H&R Mag i have found both a 431PD and a 432PD in 32 H&R Mag. even with a 1 7/8" barrel they will take my 100 gr. Hornady XTP load at over 1000 fps. With 6 rounds of that load I don't feel under gunned. The 432PD has become my routine carry revolver.