I don't recall, but I thought it was a bit high for this area. Most hunters out here these days either want an AR or if a bolt action then the latest .338 Gun Writer Fantasy Short Action Belted Mangleum. Anyone with a 30-30 is looked down upon as a tinderfoot. Lord help you if you have a 44 Mag carbine, cuz you'll never get a deer as it won't shoot past 50 yards.