Supposedly before Elmer died he had some " wire rod " patterns made up . They had a shorter nose and wider meplat . There are several companies out there selling these later designs . I stick with the older / original designs as they work the best for me . I have found that Veral Smith's designs , " WFN and LFN " designs work well also . I have shot them from " mild to wild " with equal accuracy . His molds are " top rail " IMO .