I'm retired, but a few weekends a month I work for the largest FFL in the SE doing gun shows. At the last show in Miami, he had a clean 469, but I have plenty of Gen 3 S&W's, so I didn't buy it. So 3 weeks later, I'm walking around the Ft. Lauderdale show, as he didn't need me, & the 469 is still there. Very clean, 1 mag, no box. $310 out the door. The mag looks factory, but has no markings at all. Ser # A8664##. Good deal? GARY