The Milano online rebate web site finally showed a 'ship date' of 9-5-2017 and so far nothing. I think they are just reporting to S&W that it has shipped trying to hide how far behind they are. 20 days after it has 'shipped' and nothing so far. I don't mind it taking so long I just don't like it when they lie about it. More like it was 'printed' 20 days ago and is sitting in a box somewhere.