I have my Grandpa's ole Remington Model 10 full choked 12 gauge. My Dad is 65 and is still getting the "goody" out of his long guns, he has no handguns. I bought the Remington at the estate sale when my Grandma had sold her home and getting ready to go to assisted living. A distant cousin of mine was the auctioneer, I was 16 or 17 and I was going to bid $100 or so. The auctioneer basically willed me to keep bidding up to $125. Later he told me even if I had quit bidding he was going to bid for me until the other guy quit. I've shot it a time or two, but it knocks me in the cheek and with full choke on a gun that old, I'd have to use bismuth with it in the duck boat. But, I wear grandpa's old brown camo quilted hat in the blind when the temp dips below 40. Short-billed, it's perfect for me, after I carefully cut a slit in the back so it would fit.