[QUOTE=WR Moore;140033076]Actually, the question about how Bill Jordan's model 19 lasted was answered long ago. In those days, most qualification/training was done with wadcutter .38s. Some departments might use RNL .38s, but the vast majority of the shooting was with .38s. And, as noted earlier those would all have been lead bullets.

Yep, that is how I remember it. I was USAF SP/LE and are issued handgun was the model 15. Circa 1979, the first 3 days of LE Tech school, they put us on a bus to nearby Medina annex for handgun training and qualification. All of that handgun training and the subsequent qualification was done with Winchester .38 wadcutters. Never fired a single round of the PGU duty round.