[QUOTE=viceunit;137797620]In addition to the 45-70 and 444 Marlin, the types of rifles being considered are .357 Magnum, .357 Maximum,

Wow the new news is that the 357 Maximum(a lengthened 357 mag)has been under lots of experimentation. Now guys are getting 3000 fps with a 185 grain boolit out of their Contenders and Hand Rifles. Just under 308 win performance with sub moa accuracy. Longer slow twist barrels are being used to get these velocities. Mike Bellm Is one of the guys who likes this round.