I have an old box of Speer #4447 240 gr. jacketed soft point bullets. These have no crimp groove and i'm wondering about or how to crimp.
My manuals say the COL should be 1.61". If I seat at that depth the jacket protrudes from the top of the case so a roll crimp would be squeezing the jacket. If I seat them deeply enough to crimp over the jacket and into the lead I'm at 1.57".
Should just crimp enough to remove the flare?
My load is 23 gr. of 296.

FWIW I called Speer and they will get back to me tomorrow.