It's been a couple of years since Chuck "29-1" and I have discussed the grail gun that we are pursuing. I understand that Chuck has disposed of the "Miss Guns" but I am not sure of that. I am not a Smith and Wesson collector, but am assisting Chuck in his and my search for an important gun that will be of interest to all of us. I am only posting to keep this interesting thread near the top on the forum. Chuck and I are in touch and will keep forum readers informed.